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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;If I Had A Retard For A Kid&#8221; 2</title>
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		<title>By: lookingforlifeshumor</title>
		<link>http://lifeofjason.com/2008/04/13/if-i-had-a-retard-for-a-kid-2/#comment-2417</link>
		<dc:creator>lookingforlifeshumor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, as others have pointed out, we all have problems.  We all also have good days and bad days, highs and lows, etc.  I know that there are days when I am able to be a good advocate and/or a good therapist and/or a good friend and/or a good driver (you get my point) and there are days when it is all I can do to just get through to bedtime without harming myself or others.  It runs the gamut!  WHo knows what was going on with that woman in the restaurant - what her perspective may have been, what aches and pains she might have been suffering, losses, frustrations, maybe if she'd been in your situation she would have made different choices, who knows?  You'll never know.  And who knows how you would have reacted on a different day - been a better advocate?  worded things differently?  broken down and cried on the spot?  All we can do is just do our best, learn, and try to do our best again another day.  We need to forgive and that includes forgiving ourselves too.  That's the only way we'll have the trength to make it all the way through this life in a constructive and positive (and Christian) way.  I am learning to take these things a day at a time, not beat myself up over any mistakes (real or perceived) that I or others make, and allow myself to be human.  That means that there are days when I can be a good advocate, educator, etc. and there are days when I am better suited to just "walk away" and pick my battles.  It is SOOOOOOOO hard to deal with the "rude grannies" sometimes - but then an angel comes along and shows grace where I didn't expect it.  This is a ramble, I know.  Hang in there.  Take care and peace to you all!  Even to the Toms and Grannies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, as others have pointed out, we all have problems.  We all also have good days and bad days, highs and lows, etc.  I know that there are days when I am able to be a good advocate and/or a good therapist and/or a good friend and/or a good driver (you get my point) and there are days when it is all I can do to just get through to bedtime without harming myself or others.  It runs the gamut!  WHo knows what was going on with that woman in the restaurant - what her perspective may have been, what aches and pains she might have been suffering, losses, frustrations, maybe if she&#8217;d been in your situation she would have made different choices, who knows?  You&#8217;ll never know.  And who knows how you would have reacted on a different day - been a better advocate?  worded things differently?  broken down and cried on the spot?  All we can do is just do our best, learn, and try to do our best again another day.  We need to forgive and that includes forgiving ourselves too.  That&#8217;s the only way we&#8217;ll have the trength to make it all the way through this life in a constructive and positive (and Christian) way.  I am learning to take these things a day at a time, not beat myself up over any mistakes (real or perceived) that I or others make, and allow myself to be human.  That means that there are days when I can be a good advocate, educator, etc. and there are days when I am better suited to just &#8220;walk away&#8221; and pick my battles.  It is SOOOOOOOO hard to deal with the &#8220;rude grannies&#8221; sometimes - but then an angel comes along and shows grace where I didn&#8217;t expect it.  This is a ramble, I know.  Hang in there.  Take care and peace to you all!  Even to the Toms and Grannies!</p>
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		<title>By: Eli's Mom and Jason's ex</title>
		<link>http://lifeofjason.com/2008/04/13/if-i-had-a-retard-for-a-kid-2/#comment-2416</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli's Mom and Jason's ex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason and Amy...good job!!! For those who wrote in support of my family...thank you!! Tom....shame on you!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason and Amy&#8230;good job!!! For those who wrote in support of my family&#8230;thank you!! Tom&#8230;.shame on you!!!</p>
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		<title>By: that neophyte weblogger</title>
		<link>http://lifeofjason.com/2008/04/13/if-i-had-a-retard-for-a-kid-2/#comment-2414</link>
		<dc:creator>that neophyte weblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so sick of parents and caregivers handling autism everyday being reprimanded and patronized by people who are completely out of touch!
Tom, whoever you are, your comments clearly indicate that you are truly, genuinely disconnected from anybody's reality other than your own. I am not one who will typically denounce a post, but you don't have a clue about dealing with autism. (or people of color...that was a shallow, mindless, assinine comment).

    No, Jason was not wrong to respond the way he did. He was quite polite! Parents who have children with autism tend to feel obligated to explain behaviors that make other people uncomfortable. There isn't anyone in this frickin world more uncomfortable than the caregivers who are living every single day with the challenges of autism. We don't have to tell anybody anything short of "take a long walk off a short pier" when our children are being insulted. 
   No, our children do not deserve to be insulted anymore than your child or anybody else's children. I agree, when a person decides to go to a public F-A-M-I-L-Y facility of any sort, children are going to be there. Don't want to be bothered with kids? Then find someplace else to go! If grandma wanted a quiet meal, then she should have went to a quiet restaurant. Here is something else. Whether anybody likes it or not, AUTISM IS A VERY NORMAL PART OF EVERYDAY LIFE. It is not atypical anymore. It is not abnormal anymore. It is everyday. It is real. It is prevalent. It will not go away and we won't apologize to anybody else for it. 
    Why don't you...next time...take a moment to wear a puzzle piece. Why don't you become a part of the solution instead of a very real part of a stereo-typical problem in society about mental illnesses and autism. Try volunteering. That'll be a test of true character and willingness to help make other people comfy with autism. Dare to step away from the privilege of your own incubated experience. 

No Tom, you don't offend people with your brashness...you don't get brownie points for thinking in your own mind that being brash merits applause. It's your narrow-minded stupidity that's amazing.
It's too bad granny isn't more compassionate. Considering she has one foot on the grave and the other on a banana peel, she'll be looking for the very grace she couldn't find in her own heart to lend to a child.
...why does a line to that disco inferno song come to mind: "Burn baby burn". ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so sick of parents and caregivers handling autism everyday being reprimanded and patronized by people who are completely out of touch!<br />
Tom, whoever you are, your comments clearly indicate that you are truly, genuinely disconnected from anybody&#8217;s reality other than your own. I am not one who will typically denounce a post, but you don&#8217;t have a clue about dealing with autism. (or people of color&#8230;that was a shallow, mindless, assinine comment).</p>
<p>    No, Jason was not wrong to respond the way he did. He was quite polite! Parents who have children with autism tend to feel obligated to explain behaviors that make other people uncomfortable. There isn&#8217;t anyone in this frickin world more uncomfortable than the caregivers who are living every single day with the challenges of autism. We don&#8217;t have to tell anybody anything short of &#8220;take a long walk off a short pier&#8221; when our children are being insulted.<br />
   No, our children do not deserve to be insulted anymore than your child or anybody else&#8217;s children. I agree, when a person decides to go to a public F-A-M-I-L-Y facility of any sort, children are going to be there. Don&#8217;t want to be bothered with kids? Then find someplace else to go! If grandma wanted a quiet meal, then she should have went to a quiet restaurant. Here is something else. Whether anybody likes it or not, AUTISM IS A VERY NORMAL PART OF EVERYDAY LIFE. It is not atypical anymore. It is not abnormal anymore. It is everyday. It is real. It is prevalent. It will not go away and we won&#8217;t apologize to anybody else for it.<br />
    Why don&#8217;t you&#8230;next time&#8230;take a moment to wear a puzzle piece. Why don&#8217;t you become a part of the solution instead of a very real part of a stereo-typical problem in society about mental illnesses and autism. Try volunteering. That&#8217;ll be a test of true character and willingness to help make other people comfy with autism. Dare to step away from the privilege of your own incubated experience. </p>
<p>No Tom, you don&#8217;t offend people with your brashness&#8230;you don&#8217;t get brownie points for thinking in your own mind that being brash merits applause. It&#8217;s your narrow-minded stupidity that&#8217;s amazing.<br />
It&#8217;s too bad granny isn&#8217;t more compassionate. Considering she has one foot on the grave and the other on a banana peel, she&#8217;ll be looking for the very grace she couldn&#8217;t find in her own heart to lend to a child.<br />
&#8230;why does a line to that disco inferno song come to mind: &#8220;Burn baby burn&#8221;. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Sherwood</title>
		<link>http://lifeofjason.com/2008/04/13/if-i-had-a-retard-for-a-kid-2/#comment-2412</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Sherwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Jason.  This breaks my heart for you and your family.  There are so many ignorant people in the world.  I have had terrible run-ins with people in my lifetime for other things, too, and I just think for a second, man, wouldn't it be nice to be someone else for a day... but then I remember how special we all are... and that we do have a purpose.  Your wife is right.  That woman is probably tired of living her boring, hateful life... because that's what you'd have to be to insult a child.  Terrible excuse for a human being, especially an adult who should know better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Jason.  This breaks my heart for you and your family.  There are so many ignorant people in the world.  I have had terrible run-ins with people in my lifetime for other things, too, and I just think for a second, man, wouldn&#8217;t it be nice to be someone else for a day&#8230; but then I remember how special we all are&#8230; and that we do have a purpose.  Your wife is right.  That woman is probably tired of living her boring, hateful life&#8230; because that&#8217;s what you&#8217;d have to be to insult a child.  Terrible excuse for a human being, especially an adult who should know better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://lifeofjason.com/2008/04/13/if-i-had-a-retard-for-a-kid-2/#comment-2411</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But anyway...it's clear we're not going to agree on this situation in any way other than I could have responded better in the situation so I'll just wish you a good afternoon, Tom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But anyway&#8230;it&#8217;s clear we&#8217;re not going to agree on this situation in any way other than I could have responded better in the situation so I&#8217;ll just wish you a good afternoon, Tom.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"We realized that this woman is &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;probably&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; dealing with depression and dissatisfaction with her life (she had obvious health issues) and that her lashing out &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;probably&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; came from that place."

If you used the entire quote, Tom, then you would see that it was not stating we know for sure...but rather we said it was probable.  If you manipulate the facts here...as you did by taking a small part of that statement out of context...how do I know you won't do that on council?

I have no problem with hearing with people who disagree with me.  I just ask them to be honest and not try to manipulate situations to paint it how they want it to be.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We realized that this woman is <strong><em>probably</em></strong> dealing with depression and dissatisfaction with her life (she had obvious health issues) and that her lashing out <strong><em>probably</em></strong> came from that place.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you used the entire quote, Tom, then you would see that it was not stating we know for sure&#8230;but rather we said it was probable.  If you manipulate the facts here&#8230;as you did by taking a small part of that statement out of context&#8230;how do I know you won&#8217;t do that on council?</p>
<p>I have no problem with hearing with people who disagree with me.  I just ask them to be honest and not try to manipulate situations to paint it how they want it to be.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I did was question your assumption that she was depressed and the way it was worded it wasn't even an assumption.  Look at your own quote. "We realize" simply states that you know this lady was as you say she was.
I'm not the one acting perfect on this issue as I believe you should've tried to educate this lady instead of insulting her.  Yes I know that sometimes is easier said then done.

As for being a council member NO one will ever mistake where I stand and they can call me out on anything they desire, I will not play the game of politics when I open my mouth.  Perhaps I may offend some with brashness, but it is time for people to say what they are thinking instead of playing to an issue. If that means I'm unfit for this city then so be it please let it be known that you wouldn't want someone that speaks the truth as a council member as it makes it much easier to placate to those that say one thing and then do the opposite.

As for denying mental illness even exist I'm not only in that category as many people have written to that regard and many people are saying it as well.  Perhaps you just don't want to hear from people that might disagree with you, there are many people like that you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I did was question your assumption that she was depressed and the way it was worded it wasn&#8217;t even an assumption.  Look at your own quote. &#8220;We realize&#8221; simply states that you know this lady was as you say she was.<br />
I&#8217;m not the one acting perfect on this issue as I believe you should&#8217;ve tried to educate this lady instead of insulting her.  Yes I know that sometimes is easier said then done.</p>
<p>As for being a council member NO one will ever mistake where I stand and they can call me out on anything they desire, I will not play the game of politics when I open my mouth.  Perhaps I may offend some with brashness, but it is time for people to say what they are thinking instead of playing to an issue. If that means I&#8217;m unfit for this city then so be it please let it be known that you wouldn&#8217;t want someone that speaks the truth as a council member as it makes it much easier to placate to those that say one thing and then do the opposite.</p>
<p>As for denying mental illness even exist I&#8217;m not only in that category as many people have written to that regard and many people are saying it as well.  Perhaps you just don&#8217;t want to hear from people that might disagree with you, there are many people like that you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://lifeofjason.com/2008/04/13/if-i-had-a-retard-for-a-kid-2/#comment-2408</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You were a lot nicer than I would have been.  I would have put her ass in place!   My son's 14 now and I've had to put with ignorant people like that all his life.  You would think with all the attention on TV that people would stop to think something might be wrong before they jump to conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You were a lot nicer than I would have been.  I would have put her ass in place!   My son&#8217;s 14 now and I&#8217;ve had to put with ignorant people like that all his life.  You would think with all the attention on TV that people would stop to think something might be wrong before they jump to conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://lifeofjason.com/2008/04/13/if-i-had-a-retard-for-a-kid-2/#comment-2406</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, Tom, your actions in this thread really make me question your fitness to run for the City Council in Springfield.  If you're the kind of person who likes to go on other people's blogs and continually make posts to run them down you're likely not the kind of person that would be good for Springfield.  After all, if you do that here, what would you do when you're on the City Council and can take actions to directly harm people you dislike?


“Jason you would’ve slammed me if I made this same type of comment, oh wait I did once before and got hammered for it. ”

Tom, you were slammed for saying that she was faking a mental illness and that it doesn’t exist. This is an entirely different situation.


Now, you could be right that she had something happen to put her in that mood.  That still doesn't mean she wasn't depressed or angry and lashed out from that place as Amy &#38; I had felt.  And I fully expected some people to be critical of the mistake I made.  I've never tried to pretend to be perfect or flawless unlike some other bloggers or media folks or elected officials in our community.  I posted fully knowing that some people would take issue with it.  It was also to show that parents of special needs children are human and sometimes they don't react in the best manner to these situations.  

Now, you may want to pretend you're perfect and never make mistakes and in so you have the right to come in here and lecture me on behavior.  I believe you're likely doing it because you think the criticism you received for denying mental illness exists was out of line.  There's a world of difference between calling large amounts of Springfield residents liars who say they have a mental illness (and their families who also know their relative has a mental illness) and what happened on Sunday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, Tom, your actions in this thread really make me question your fitness to run for the City Council in Springfield.  If you&#8217;re the kind of person who likes to go on other people&#8217;s blogs and continually make posts to run them down you&#8217;re likely not the kind of person that would be good for Springfield.  After all, if you do that here, what would you do when you&#8217;re on the City Council and can take actions to directly harm people you dislike?</p>
<p>“Jason you would’ve slammed me if I made this same type of comment, oh wait I did once before and got hammered for it. ”</p>
<p>Tom, you were slammed for saying that she was faking a mental illness and that it doesn’t exist. This is an entirely different situation.</p>
<p>Now, you could be right that she had something happen to put her in that mood.  That still doesn&#8217;t mean she wasn&#8217;t depressed or angry and lashed out from that place as Amy &amp; I had felt.  And I fully expected some people to be critical of the mistake I made.  I&#8217;ve never tried to pretend to be perfect or flawless unlike some other bloggers or media folks or elected officials in our community.  I posted fully knowing that some people would take issue with it.  It was also to show that parents of special needs children are human and sometimes they don&#8217;t react in the best manner to these situations.  </p>
<p>Now, you may want to pretend you&#8217;re perfect and never make mistakes and in so you have the right to come in here and lecture me on behavior.  I believe you&#8217;re likely doing it because you think the criticism you received for denying mental illness exists was out of line.  There&#8217;s a world of difference between calling large amounts of Springfield residents liars who say they have a mental illness (and their families who also know their relative has a mental illness) and what happened on Sunday.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"We realized that this woman is probably dealing with depression and dissatisfaction with her life (she had obvious health issues) and that her lashing out probably came from that place".

Jason you would've slammed me if I made this same type of comment, oh wait I did once before and got hammered for it.  One can not assume that a person is dealing with depression or any other challenges(except health)by looking at them.  She could've been told a family member died last night or a host of other reasons which is why she lashed out at what she thought was lack of discipline. This is one reason why people should keep there private business private and if you do make it public then people are going to question some of what you say and do.  Perhaps before saying anything you both should have done a check-up from the neck up.
Once more next time take the opportunity presented to you to educate an individual instead of lashing out at a circumstance that wasn't understandable.  You were in a public place after all and quite possibly this lady was looking for a nice leisure meal without kids screaming or whatever Eli was doing that might have also touched her last nerve.

My oldest was developmentally slow so I can understand the challenges faced by people on both sides of the issue, thankfully we were able to find the help that Michael needed and then home school him so his schooling was tailored to his needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We realized that this woman is probably dealing with depression and dissatisfaction with her life (she had obvious health issues) and that her lashing out probably came from that place&#8221;.</p>
<p>Jason you would&#8217;ve slammed me if I made this same type of comment, oh wait I did once before and got hammered for it.  One can not assume that a person is dealing with depression or any other challenges(except health)by looking at them.  She could&#8217;ve been told a family member died last night or a host of other reasons which is why she lashed out at what she thought was lack of discipline. This is one reason why people should keep there private business private and if you do make it public then people are going to question some of what you say and do.  Perhaps before saying anything you both should have done a check-up from the neck up.<br />
Once more next time take the opportunity presented to you to educate an individual instead of lashing out at a circumstance that wasn&#8217;t understandable.  You were in a public place after all and quite possibly this lady was looking for a nice leisure meal without kids screaming or whatever Eli was doing that might have also touched her last nerve.</p>
<p>My oldest was developmentally slow so I can understand the challenges faced by people on both sides of the issue, thankfully we were able to find the help that Michael needed and then home school him so his schooling was tailored to his needs.</p>
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